Talking Scared

60 – Caitlin Starling and Emotional Torture Porn

October 13, 2021 Episode 60
Talking Scared
60 – Caitlin Starling and Emotional Torture Porn
Show Notes

Hello kids. Wanna see a magic trick? 

Rather than pulling a rabbit from a hat, I offer you Caitlin Starling, author of The Luminous Dead and her new Gothic chiller, The Death of Jane Lawrence. 

Caitlin’s novel takes a familiar Gothic set-up and kicks it around until it is only recognisable from the colour of its blood. Dilapidated house – check. Deceitful husband – check. Magical rites, mysterious walls and ghosts that feed on shame – yeah that’s new!

We talk all about magical rites and occult practices, but before things get too esoteric and in-the-weeds, we also discuss Hannibal the TV show, whether there is life after death, and how best to incorporate neurodivergence into a dark gothic fantasy. 

You’ll come out of this one, entertained, entranced AND with a whole new reading and viewing list.


The Death of Jane Lawrence was published on October 5th by St Martin’s Press.

Unexplained podcast episode featuring Aleister Crowley: 

Books discussed on this episode include:

  • Jane Eyre (1847), by Charlotte Brontë
  • Wuthering Heights (1847), by Emily Brontë
  • Under the Pendulum Sun (2017), by Jeanette Ng
  • Vita Nostra (2007), by Marina and Sergey Dyachenko

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